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#1 Freelancer

Posted 24 April 2011 - 02:46 PM

Current Top Picks for "CPUs/Processors"
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Your cpu is the heart of your machine. When you click on a program icon, it's your cpus job to transfer the given program from the harddrive to your RAM to be able to use in a real-time environment. The speed of this transfer is crucial for gamers and their load times. The cpu is in charge of essentially everything that transfers data between different components of your system, more importantly your GPU. The GPU is a dedicated graphics processing unit, very similar to the CPU, but designed and optimized for taking on complex mathematical algorithms found in graphics processing and 3d environments. Although the GPU does the number crunching, its the CPU's job to utilize that information and transfer it to other parts of the system. When a CPU insufficiently fills this task, either due to speed or otherwise, this is called bottlenecking. There are so many gamers out there today that simply think upgrading their graphics cards will reap great reward without regards to whether their cpu is actually the main limiting factor in their build.

CPU's are ever-changing with the tide of technological progress, but here are the current top recommended CPUs for system builers.

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There's simply no better gaming CPU on the market today than Sandy Bridge. The Core i5 2500K and 2600K top the charts regardless of game. If you're building a new gaming box, you'll want a SNB in it.


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Performance-Level: If your building a new pc, chances are most gamers are centering their builds around this processor. Processors and GPUs shold be the first and main priority in a budget for a computer. If your building a entire new pc and cannot afford at least our performance reommendation, you really should save your pennies, as buying last-gen hardware would really be a waste.

I5-2500k


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Enthusiast: If your looking to go torwards "bleeding edge", or simply do a LOT of work on your pc at the same time, then this processor is for you. In some cases you may be looking torwards this processor because you actually do a lot of multi-tasking and really need the overhead, or in another case you may simply want to get a few more FPS in a game. Keep in mind while this processor is the fastest on the market, it comes with a price. Rest assured you get what you pay for.

I7-2600k


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One may ask, why not older i7 or i5 processors?

Unlike Lynnfield, Sandy Bridge isn’t just about turbo (although Sandy Bridge’s turbo modes are quite awesome). Architecturally it’s the biggest change we’ve seen since Conroe, although looking at a high level block diagram you wouldn’t be able to tell. Architecture width hasn’t changed, but internally SNB features a complete redesign of the Out of Order execution engine, a more efficient front end (courtesy of the decoded µop cache) and a very high bandwidth ring bus. The L3 cache is also lower and the memory controller is much faster. I’ve gone through the architectural improvements in detail here. The end result is better performance all around. For the same money as you would’ve spent last year, you can expect anywhere from 10-50% more performance in existing applications and games from Sandy Bridge.

For everyone else, Sandy Bridge is easily a no brainer. Unless you already have a high-end Core i7, this is what you'll want to upgrade to.


Hope this helps. As aways, if you have any questions, ask them below!



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#2 actellim

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 12:51 PM

I'm still running on a wolfdale (LOL!), how much of a performance upgrade do you think I'd see upgrading to an i5? Could it possibly offset the cost of a new mobo+processor? If you had to pick a mobo to go with an i5 what would it be?

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 11:03 PM

I can't give you much intormation yet, due to there being a serious lack it at the moment. But wait for a while, more z68 boards with pci-e 3.0 will come out in Q4, giving you a good choice for your next graphics card update between nvidia and AMD. That is, if any game will overcome the gtx460 @ 1920x1080 xD.

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#4 Sprungjeezy

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 08:13 PM

I believe Ivy Bridge should be coming out relatively soon - early 2012 so if you're upgrading "soon" you might as well wait as everything will get bumped down a hundred or so and you'll be able to get a lower quality Ivy Bridge that will outperform current mid-level CPUs.

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 08:41 PM

I'm tempted to wait and build my next system on Ivy Bridge/Panther Point, but my impulsive nature is pushing me to go Sandy Bridge/Cougar Point just so I can get it now now now. I can also rationalize this decision by saying that I'd be building on tested and proven hardware, and not subject to the problems that the early Cougar adopters had, right? Right?

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#6 Freelancer

Posted 24 October 2011 - 09:16 PM

I'm tempted to wait and build my next system on Ivy Bridge/Panther Point, but my impulsive nature is pushing me to go Sandy Bridge/Cougar Point just so I can get it now now now. I can also rationalize this decision by saying that I'd be building on tested and proven hardware, and not subject to the problems that the early Cougar adopters had, right? Right?


That's a valid buying decision.



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Posted 26 October 2011 - 03:19 PM

I'm thinking that this thread should include mainboards, since the two are so integral, and we currently have no place to discuss this most important piece of any modern system.

That said, I'm leaning toward the i5 - 2500K and an ASUS P8P67, but I'm not yet sure which of those boards will suit me best. While I have no desire to run SLI or Crossfire, I do want to run a pair of 250GB 7200RPM drives in RAID 0 (redundancy is for wimps. speed is king.) Any thoughts?

This will be my first Intel build, as I've always been drawn to the prices AMD offered. Unfortunately, for projects I want to undertake in the future, AMD just doesn't provide enough horsepower.

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#8 grndzro

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 08:11 AM

If you know what you are doing with overclocking you can push a bulldozer to 5ghz and eliminate any IPC bottleneck.
With fast ram and northbridge overclocking it can beat even an overclocked 2700k

Guild wars 2 will undoubtably be multithreaded so performance on FX-8150/Piledriver on windows 8 should be better than any intel socket 1155.

I'd rather have more cores than 4. With intels hyperthreading thrashing cache FX-8150 will provide a smoother hitch free gameplay.

#9 Chev

Posted 25 February 2012 - 09:44 PM

I have found this site to give barebones head to head data that is helpful when picking CPUs and slightly less so video cards.

This helps reduce the clutter between the difference of core numbers and frequency scales.

http://www.cpubenchm...h_end_cpus.html

You can see that the i7 2600K is quite high on the list, but it is surrounded by several Xenons that are much older.

Then the question comes to compatibility, and the newer card will have more motherboard support.



Anyway this is a good reality check for me and bargin check. Consider buying the 3960X over the 3930K. This difference between the scores is minmal, but the price comparison is extreme.



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Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:21 AM

If you know what you are doing with overclocking you can push a bulldozer to 5ghz and eliminate any IPC bottleneck.
With fast ram and northbridge overclocking it can beat even an overclocked 2700k

Guild wars 2 will undoubtably be multithreaded so performance on FX-8150/Piledriver on windows 8 should be better than any intel socket 1155.

I'd rather have more cores than 4. With intels hyperthreading thrashing cache FX-8150 will provide a smoother hitch free gameplay.


It's really hard to believe a bulldozer can beat 2700k even when overclocked. If both were at 5ghz, sandy bridge would still beat my fx8150, saying this after 1month of reaching 5.5ghz with my fx8150 and my performance is slightly better than a 2600k @ 5ghz

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#11 Chev

Posted 16 March 2012 - 02:10 AM

OK for the true gear-heads.

i7-2700K vs. i7-3820

They are both 2nd gen core i7 processors. Is the LGA2011 socket not the new sandy bridge design?



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Posted 20 March 2012 - 11:35 AM

Uhm guys dont forget that there is only few games with a quad core support. I have some friends who are really into informatics and electrical engineering and since they are all gamers too they alway say that a i5 2500k is way more then enough for gaming... even for the next years. With the open multiplier of the 2500k you can overclock even better if there is a need to in some years. If you dont render videos and stuff invest the cash rather in a better graphic card then into a bigger processor.

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#13 Mirik

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 12:23 PM

i just bought parts for my new computer that i am building.. I am going with i7 -3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 02:35 PM

i just bought parts for my new computer that i am building.. I am going with i7 -3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz


Same here. I ordered parts for a complete system build, and decided to go with the 3820. The difference could be minimal for gaming but I just wanted to go with a quad-channel set-up. I also don't plan on overclocking. Not to mention the Ivy Bridge-E series will be compatible with LGA2011 sockets.

#15 Chev

Posted 20 March 2012 - 04:24 PM

I've reading about LGA-2011 vs LGA-1156.

When comparing the 2700K to the 3820 the 3820 appears to be only marginally faster in benchmarks than the 2700K. This is using the 4 channel memory setup.

I suspect that there is not perceivable difference in performance making the upgrade, so it comes down to future upgrade-ability. By the time I upgrade, there will be an entirely new platform, so that is not generally much of a concern.

I will probably save my coin and get the 2700K as mobos are much cheaper as well as memory.

Of course, I am not going to make the upgrade until a little close to GW2 comes out, so prices may change my mind by April 10.



#16 Nevron

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 04:58 PM

I've come to the same conclusions for the most part, I just decided to put down the extra toward my build. I recently got a good chunk of change so it's easier to justify when not necessarily having a strict budget ceiling (within reason). The last time I did a full system build was in 2007, my current PC, in which I'm still using a dual core e6850. Needless to say I've been due for an upgrade for a minute.

#17 Chev

Posted 20 March 2012 - 09:05 PM

I'll be upgrading my Athelon X2 from "07 as well. My thought is to put the money towards a better GPU and a SSD (or two), but I will admit that I have urges to go all out........



#18 Chev

Posted 17 April 2012 - 11:22 AM

Well, I've waited around too long and now I want Ivy Bridge.

I want the P77 Northbridge so i can have more SATA 3.0 inputs and the Ivy Bridge will get me access to the PCIe 3.0.

This begs the other question. Should I go with the 78-79 series cards? I will wait to see some benchmarks to see if the PCIe 3.0 will make much, if any difference.

For now, I am just collecting parts that are not on the verge of change.

Unfortunately, when I do things like this I blow the budget out of the water, because I buy a bit at a time.



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Posted 05 May 2012 - 02:01 AM

It seems to have been a while since people posted here. What are your opinions on the 2500K?, I personally believe this is the Q6600 of the current generation of CPU's I find that it offers a great price point for the amount of power it pushes out and it's overall overclockability. As for the poster above (Chev) the benefit of PCI-Express 3.0 is going to be that lanes which are wired in 8x 3.0 will be able to push as much bandwidth as 16x 2.0 wired slots, the overall benefit probably won't be noticeable by a majority of users, we're not even maxing out the bandwidth on 2.0 yet.

I've helped a lot of people with PC builds lately and the parts I seem to fallback on a lot are the 2500k, GTX560 TI, HD7850 and past that it's really varied depending on what the person wants. If I was building a system today I would probably choose a 2500k and a HD7850, the 7850 is a few FPS behind a GTX 580 and is around $100 less.

In my opinion the 2500k is still one of the best purchases currently and I'm excited to see what the next Q6600, E8400, 2500K is going to be, I wouldn't recommend going with the 2550k though because you can reach the levels of the 2500k without even breaking a sweat through overclocking and the loss of QuickSync could prove to make the CPU not as valuable in the future. I'd also like to see some discussions about the Core i7-3930K and possibly i7-3770K, once these things come down in price I personally think they'll be the new go to processor for a lot of the high mid-range builds or higher end builds. The 3770K seems to be showing some good results but at $380 from most retailers I think it needs to drop about $60 to make me consider it over a 2500k still.

#20 Freelancer

Posted 05 May 2012 - 02:49 PM

The Sandy Bridge Cpus still outperform the Ivy Bridge. There are no changes to be made.





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